This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Batchelor,

welcoming my colleague and friend, that is McCotter, recovering politician writing an American

greatness about the presidential contest now underway after the final contest of the

habe versus Trump has ended and with mr biden making the State of the Union message very much a stump speech.

That is, asked the question in American greatness about Mr. Trump's campaign of 24. Is it a presidential campaign or is it a revenge tour?

That is a very good evening to you from remarks that Mr. Trump has made on stage frequently over the last months.

Revenge is very much on his mind. on stage frequently over the last months.

Revenge is very much on his mind.

What does that mean in practical terms?

What does it mean as a campaign strategy?

Good evening to you.

Good evening to you, John.

Well, I offer this as a piece of constructive criticism.

Not that it will be taken very well by Mr. Trump or his supporters. But in the final analysis, Americans are not a

vengeful people or an aspirational people. We generally do not respond to calls for revenge or individuals claiming to be our instrument of justice.

There are those within the MAGA movement, and some within the Republican Party

were very upset about the direction of the country,

and there may be some that would like

to see those who have shredded the Constitution

in the name of protecting democracy,

actually be held accountable.

And so to a certain extent, this is an appeal

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