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The Dave Chang Show

Point of View With Brooks Headley

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 October 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

Dave talks to Brooks Headley of Superiority Burger about a range of topics, from constant iteration and refining dishes to the punk-rock urge to zig when everyone else zags. Superiority Burger has moved since they last spoke, so the pair talks about adjusting to the new space, New York, and thoughts on expansion. Dave closes by answering an Ask Dave about prepping frozen fish. Learn more about Superiority Burger: https://www.superiorityburger.com/  Listen to our previous episode with Brooks Headley: https://open.spotify.com/episode/70nvKRNDXARAqCw5mOOslX?si=l9FoKuhwQEq4mOUroRsz5w  Listen to our previous episode with Nancy Silverton: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3MLVEZq7CTbTTEKftrI7xk?si=Cc7FckT9TfWMXnbBYfU4yA  Listen to our previous episode with Mark Ladner: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qjEx81gP1UuGxHwoxjqfq?si=WxuUwMT7SZaakxsNRBoAhQ  Read Dave's writing on Brooks for TIME 100: https://time.com/6964708/brooks-headley/  Hear the Ramones' 'All Quiet on the Eastern Front': https://open.spotify.com/track/3uxp0UwVWJVJqlXnH1d7zi?si=d6f4e464f8094a06  Learn more about Yang's Kitchen: https://www.yangskitchenla.com/  Learn more about Bread and Salt Bakery: https://www.instagram.com/breadandsaltbakery/?hl=en  Learn more about Chi Spacca: https://www.chispacca.com/  Learn more about Smoke House: https://www.smokehouse1946.com/  Learn more about El Bulli: https://elbullifoundation.com/en/  Learn more about Gramercy Tavern: https://www.gramercytavern.com/  Learn more about the Torrance Farmer's Market: https://www.torranceca.gov/our-city/cultural-services/farmers-market  Learn more about South Pasadena Farmer's Market: https://southpasadenafarmersmarket.org/  Learn more about Weiser Family Farms: https://www.weiserfamilyfarms.com/  Learn more about Santa Monica Market: https://www.santamonica.com/experience-santa-monica/farmers-markets/  Learn more about Rustic Canyon: https://rusticcanyonrestaurant.com/  Watch our previous podcast with Jeremy Fox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhkVPVTJwnA  Learn more about the Greenmarket: https://www.grownyc.org/greenmarket  Learn more about GPod Potatoes: https://gpodpotatoes.com/ Learn more about Edulis: https://www.edulisrestaurant.com/  Learn more about Arzak: https://www.arzak.es/en/  Send in your Ask Dave questions to bit.ly/AskDaveForm or [email protected] Subscribe to the show on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thedavechangshow Subscribe to Recipe Club on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@recipeclubofficial Submit your favorite food moments in your favorite movies to majorfoodporn.com Join our community Discord on majordomo.com Host: Dave Chang Guest: Mark Ladner Majordomo Media Producer: David Meyer Spotify Producer: Felipe Guilhermino Engineer: Belle Roman Editor: Stefano Sanchez Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Today's guest is a multi-hyphenate musician pastry chef restaurant tour.

0:04.4

One of the most respected, beloved award-winning chefs around Brooks Headley of

0:10.8

Superiority Burger.

0:11.9

We had him on in 2019.

0:14.6

The world was a different place and he was in a different location for his restaurant.

0:20.0

We're going to talk about the new space.

0:23.3

We're in New York City right now, so we're not doing the cooking bid as we've long

0:28.2

promised.

0:28.8

So if you're listening to this podcast, you're probably like, hooray.

0:32.8

But when we get back, you'll see that we're probably cooking again.

0:37.6

And hopefully we'll have Brooks join us in our LA studio.

0:41.5

But let's get on with the show.

0:46.5

Welcome to the Dave Chang Show, part of the Ringer podcast network presented by major

0:49.5

DOMA Media.

0:50.6

Thank you, Yolottingo, as always.

0:52.2

Don't forget to check out our clips and episodes of our show on our

0:56.0

YouTube channel at the Dave Chang Show. Join our Discord at majordomo.com. Chris Ying and

1:02.0

Noel have been messing around with these cook-along sessions. And I haven't joined one yet because I've been recording and working on other things,

1:13.5

but you should check it out if you're interested in learning more about food and the community

1:18.4

of recipes.

1:20.3

We're going to go down the rabbit hole on some very favorite recipes from around the sort of

1:25.5

blogosphere and food news sites.

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