there is only one you and there is a lane and an offering that you bring to the world that

literally no one else brings. And so go and do it. If you want to build something, build it.

You're not here listening to Allie Worthington because you don't want to build something.

So go and build it. Go and build it. The resources are there to help you. The people are there to

help you. God will help you. Go and build it. We need it.

Welcome back. Today on Smart Girl Summer, we have a powerhouse conversation with Annie F. Downs.

You're going to get two Enneagram 7s talking about business, podcasting, and what it

actually is like behind the scenes. We go deep on what no one else is talking about, on building

a career that works for you, on growing a company and protecting your peace in a noisy world.

You'll hear the bad advice we both ignored, the hard lessons we've learned,

and the bad practices out there that make us go a little bit crazy. So if you love business and

you need a fresh shot of motivation and wisdom, this one's for you. But before we get started,

I want to tell you the big news. Okay, let's dive in to the conversation with my friend

Annie. Annie F Downs, you have been on Smart Girl Summer before. It was so good. I actually re-aired

your Smart Girl Summer last year. I think two Enneagram 7s talking business is really fun because Enneagram 7s get a bad rap that we're not serious about business.

We're not strategic.

But let's go.

Yeah.

Let's talk about the state of the Annie F. Downs world in 2025.

Tell me about your business as of right now, the parts of it, how it works.

Let's have an overview. Yeah, so I have two companies that I own and run. One is AFD, Inc.

AFD, Inc. is all the books that I write, all the podcasts I host and record, and my traveling speaking schedule, and then

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