Dude, I think it's more difficult to record in person now than it is remotely.

Yeah.

Like, I think I should just fly home so we can record this and fly back for the show tonight.

We're recording in person for the first time in months.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's like I'm all set up for remote recording now.

Yeah.

Which we were just talking about how we used to record on a little handheld record, like our first like 200 episodes. Yeah. We're on a little handheld recorder that was hooked up to a mixer. With a, with a, like a card, like a little like. Yeah, it recorded onto an SD card. Yeah, and then I'd take it home and like plug it in and edit it. And it was super easy. Well, it was pretty easy. You had to get the mixer all set up right. But once you did that, you just left it alone and recorded every week and it worked fine. Think of how easy podcasts were like in the 1950s. You just go into a radio station and you just talk and it just beams it out to anyone with an

antenna. Yeah. It was the simplest thing. Yeah. And then we started, it started getting more complex.

Fortunately, it did. I mean, we were talking about the drawbacks of it. The advantages of it are that we

can record remotely. And I started setting us up for that pre-COVID, which was good, because if I didn't have all that equipment already pre-COVID, we would never be able to keep going during COVID. Yeah. Because we recorded remotely for like six to nine months. And if we, if this podcast had ended, that that would have made COVID a tragedy. Yes.

Yeah.

That would have been the real tragedy of COVID.

So, and now that you live in California, you know, it's what's, it's more complicated

to have the stuff to record remotely, but you need it to record remotely.

So it's like, but then you get here and I forget how we do this.

Because we're still a recording in a more complex way, which is using software.

You know, because before, like I said, you used to record right onto the through mixer to the SD card.

Yeah.

But now we're still using software.

So it's still complicated, but it's complicated in a different way. So when you're here in front of me now, it still takes me 20 minutes to get a setup to do this because we haven't done it and so long. And it's weird relating to you as from one human to one embodied human to another. I don't even know how to relate to you. I feel like we need to turn our chairs facing opposite directions so I could see you on a screen.

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