Hi this is Hope.

This is Kerem.

Hi this is Katie from Washington DC and you're a l'anome

Athlete Radio. Hey and welcome to No Meant Athlete Radio episode 46. This is Matt Frazier, as always. No Doug Hay

today, but I am with a special guest, friend of mine. His name's Carl Geita, and

this is kind of a different episode because it's you know Carl's not you know he doesn't make his his living doing vegan stuff he's not I don't think he'd call himself an athlete per se

Not a vegan cookbook author author but still a fascinating guy

who does happen to be or has happened to be vegan for a long time and we'll talk

about where where that's gone next but Carl thank you for for joining us

thanks Matt thanks for having me I liked that uh that intro yeah I mean I

I don't know I've been fascinated with what you've done online really since

I think as since no made athlete started I found

you very shortly after that back when you were doing ridiculously extraordinary

com yeah and we've we've been we've been emailing for years so yeah it's it's it's been a while

Yeah, it has and we've met up a few times at different South by Southwest or world

domination summit type events.

So anyway, I just think you during cool stuff.

And also I should mention that you were one of the initial inspirations for me to actually

become vegan.

I was vegetarian for a long time and I don't know I had read some

things on your blog about being vegan and I don't know you Robert Cheek and

Jenna Hamshaw from choosing raw for, for some reason, right around the time when I was like close enough to being vegan,

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