So when I thought about inviting Gloria Cho back on the podcast, first thought was, I would love for her to speak to a slightly different angle than she's been speaking to before.

So if you don't know Gloria, she's been on this podcast twice, and I will link both of those episodes in the show notes below.

But she is a PR expert.

And since she's such an expert, in a moment,

I'm going to let her introduce herself in all the fabulousness that she is.

But I actually know her.

We sat in one mastermind together in Phoenix, Arizona, right, Gloria?

Yep. And I actually met you before that as well. So it's been years, years.

Yeah, you were in the mastermind, Rick's mastermind, the accelerator, long live the accelerator,

even though he stopped it now. And I was coaching in there. So thank you for coming back on the podcast and thank you for

talking about how to get PR as in how to reach out and get somebody to respond to you when

you're trying to be a guest on other people's podcast. But before we get to this cool

conversation, can you share a little bit about yourself?

Because I love how you came into this whole big art thing.

Oh, thank you so much.

So if anyone is looking to pivot a career or feel like they're an outsider, this episode is for you.

So my name is Gloria Chow.

I am born and raised in L.A., but now I live in Brooklyn, where my East Coaster is at.

I am a small biz PR coach, and I call myself a PR coach and not an agent or a PR expert is because I've

never worked a day at a PR agency. My whole ethos, my mission is to make PR accessible for the

everyday entrepreneur. And as of current, there really is no one serving them. It's usually you hire an agency,

you give away your power, or you don't get seen. And I believe that media access, media

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