Picky, indecisive, and uninterested in a place in the sun (with Claudia Hammond)
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
Fi's a bit blissed out on medication and Jane doesn't really know anything today, so bear with us as we muddle through... Jane and Fi chat the Buxton postal system, washing your oven gloves, the Beckham feud, and cats on leads.
Plus, academic psychologist and presenter Claudia Hammond discusses her latest book ‘Overwhelmed’.
We’re taking suggestions for our next book club pick! The brief is: books that deserve to be re-read.
Our most asked about book is called 'The Later Years' by Peter Thornton.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Tuesday. |
| 0:11.6 | Halfway through the week. |
| 0:12.9 | We're not, though, are we? |
| 0:14.3 | It's touchy Tuesday. |
| 0:16.0 | Do you feel touchy today? |
| 0:18.5 | No, not really. |
| 0:20.0 | How's your back? |
| 0:20.9 | Not great. |
| 0:21.7 | No. |
| 0:22.1 | I'm still heavily medicated. |
| 0:25.4 | Dear, it's not funny. |
| 0:27.3 | Sometimes when people are heavily medicated, |
| 0:29.3 | they're sort of slightly, just gently zoned out. |
| 0:33.6 | Oh, I know I am a bit zoned out. |
| 0:35.0 | I'm having to walk at your pace. And it just takes so long. |
| 0:39.9 | It's about 15 minutes to get to the tube station this morning. Because you couldn't do your |
| 0:45.1 | trademark bustle. I can't go pacey. Anyway, thoughts and prayers to anybody with a bareback. |
| 0:51.3 | It's one of those things, isn't it, that people have bad backs. And I think until you've had a bad back, you're a bit dismissive of bad backs. Well, if you have a bad back. It's one of those things, isn't it? That people have bad backs and I think |
| 0:55.1 | until you've had a bad back, you're a bit dismissive of bad backs and then you have a bad back and it's all you can think about. It's a classic lead swinging tactic, as we used to call it up north, to take time off work with a bad back. I don't know where the expression lead swinger comes from, but someone who takes a lot of time off work. |
| 1:12.1 | Yes, where would Led Swinger come from? |
| 1:14.1 | I always... back. Yeah. I don't know where the expression Led Swinger comes from, but someone who takes a lot of time off work. |
| 1:12.0 | Yes, where would Led Swinger come from? |
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