Welcome to Wednesday's podcast.

I've got some sad news for you.

Have you heard this?

What?

Best-selling novelist, Jeffrey Archer.

Uh-oh.

Has announced that his next novel,

Adam and Eve, is going to be his last.

Cool. Blimey.

I know. He's quoted here in this article,

saying, I can't quite imagine putting my pen down for good.

Jeffrey, put your pen down.

You can see what you're doing.

But I can think of no more fitting way to bring my novel writing career to a close. Well, certainly Adam and Eve sounds like a blockbuster, doesn't it? Well, it's back to the days of Canaan Abel. That's what made him, isn't it? Oh, yes. It's described as a powerful story which weaves together love, betrayal, and the stark realities of a world at war. I hope it's got the fresh fruit in it, Jane. Yes, indeed.

Well, look, he's and the stark realities of a world at war. I hope it's got the fresh fruit in it, Jane.

Yes, indeed.

Well, look, he's a multi-multi... No, I don't like to see a picture of him

because, as you know, we've had contratomps during our time.

And did I just exit the studio when you interviewed him?

I do find him properly triggering.

But it was on this podcast when Louise Minchin was sitting in

where we talked about the fact we both had the same experience with him

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