We've just had a discussion in the studio about how grey the world is.

Well, it's actually Blue Monday, isn't it today?

Isn't it what they're called today?

When everybody hates the world? Everybody hates the world. Credit card bills from Christmas, all that stuff. So we hope you're not feeling that bad today. We're in a really good... We're really bouncing into the week. We really are. I hope you had a good couple of days. You didn't really, did you? Well, I've hurt my back. I know. No, I know you've heard you back. You're being very, very proud.

Is it so boring.

Well, it's a bit, no, I'm empathising.

Yeah, it's boring.

Is there anything you can do for it?

I think it is just one of those slight kind of middle-aged things,

and you just have to take some painkillers,

not move it around too much and hope for the best.

So that's what I'm going to do.

But the funny thing is, I think I did it by walking too much,

and that's so middle-aged.

It wasn't like a big thing that happened? Because every other day there's a headline that says, walking, even for 10 minutes a day, lengthens your life by decades. So we do it. And then what happens? And then what happens? Yeah. So I walked back from Islington to Hackney, carrying a very large bag of shopping in front of me and by the time I got home I couldn't

kind of put my arms down. It was just stuck. Anyway, who cares? We're here. No, we do care. What I was

going to say, though, big question for you. Think carefully about this one. Have you ever not won a prize

and then basically told the people who didn't give you a prize that you just weren't

bothered about the subject anymore. Did you ever do that at school? No, I was very mature

about that. I didn't win prizes at school. So it was just as well. I took that mature approach.

Okay. If you'd not won a couple of Sony Golds, would you have written to the Radio Academy and said, I'm not doing

radio anymore? I don't need to worry about radio anymore because I haven't won a prize.

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