Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Jasmine Singer, and this is Marianne Sullivan.

And on this week's show, Marianne, will be joined by physician Dr. Hope Fredowsian, founder and CEO of the Phoenix Zones Initiative, author of

Phoenix Zones, where strength is born and resilience lives, and an expert in public health,

whose work focuses on the link between human and animal rights, health, and well-being.

Those are some relevant topics from many reasons.

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, she's one of the few people who's really bringing in the whole

connection. Well, I mean, I shouldn't say that because I think there is growing awareness of this,

but she is really at the forefront of bringing in animals and what's happening to them as part of

the whole public health

issue, both because they're important in and of themselves and because of the impact.

It all has on us and what's happening in the world.

So that is a really, really useful topic at the moment.

On this week's flock bonus segment, I will be continuing my conversation with hope. If you are a

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very inspiring guests and some really inspiring conversations about activism and life in general.

It always features a recently aired podcast guest.

So we've also been having a lot of new flock members from all over the world joined. So it's

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