Hey, welcome to Happy Place, the show where we take a deep dive into the minds of some

very clever people and see if they can help us live life to the full.

I'm Fern Cotton and today I'm sitting down with the phenomenal Philippa Perry.

Thing is, your kid is not a project that you get right or ruin.

They are a person you have a relationship with.

If you have young kids, know someone with young kids or just curious about how we develop

into adults, you're going to love this episode.

And her amazing book is called The Book You Wish Your Parents Had Read and Your Children

Would Be Glad That You Did.

It's such a good book.

I absolutely loved it.

For this episode of Happy Place, we partnered with Heritage by Julox.

Edge of Elvitt Mat has a luxury, soft touch paint finish that stands up to the demands

of a busy modern home.

Available in a beautifully timeless colour palette that allows us to fill our homes with

whichever rich feelings we please.

I've got a pot of an utterly gorgeous rich shade called Deep Ultramarine right here.

Do you know the Lapis Lezouli Stone?

It's like that.

A completely hypnotic blue that reminds me of just how much I feel mesmerised whenever

I'm by the sea on the south coast.

It's got that gorgeous seaside feel to it, that deep sea feel to it.

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