Hey, everybody. I'm really happy today to have one of my great friends, the long-term

conrad in arms, Gary Gillum, who is a veteran investigative journalist, one of the few left in the

world with more than 30 years of experience covering corporate news, including 17 years as a

senior correspondent with writers that she is the author of whitewash, the story of a weed killer,

Cancer and Corruption of Scientists about Monsanto. The book won the coveted H.O. Card is an award

for the Society of Environmental Journalists in 2018. Her second book, narrative legal thriller,

titled Monsanto Papers, was released on our second 2021. She has also contributed chapters

for a textbook about environmental journalism and a book about pesticides used in Africa, and she has

a ton of other incredible qualifications. She writes regularly for the Guardian. Her work has

additionally been published in the New York Times. I've posed in many, many other outfits. Welcome to

the show, Gary. Thanks, thanks, Bobby. You always have a million things to talk about. I really

wanted to drill down today on Neonicotoids and the disappearance of bees, which is the insect

devastating collapse of the insect population, which is now saying 80 percent of winged insects have

disappeared in the past 10 years. It's not a crisis that is covered on the front pages as it ought

to be, but I find it so extraordinarily alarming, and it seems like the Neonicotoids are a

bright, very culprit. Yeah, certainly, and I appreciate you, you know, wanting to talk about

this topic. I've just come back on the last week or two from the Midwest of story I'm researching

actually in Nebraska that centers on a very large contamination event with Neonicotoids. And

this is important because it's really what's happening here. It's focusing the attention of regulators

and consumers and a number of researchers from universities, because they're very worried

not only about pollinators, but about the human health impacts as well, something that has really

not gotten a lot of attention. But yeah, these Neonicotoids and they're neurotoxins, you know,

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