Despite discomfort, injustice, and even death, the persecuted church is flourishing.

How is this possible? Dr. Karen Ellis says,

We've got the Word of God. And the enemy knows that that is way more powerful than any weapon, any arsenal, anything, because that is what changes hearts.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgamuth, author of Surrender, The Heart

God Controls. For September 11th, 2025, I'm Dana Gresh.

Our theme year in September is fortitude, endurance. We're exploring what it means to persevere through challenging circumstances.

Here on Revive Our Hearts, we've talked about walking

through desert places, times in our lives

that feel spiritually desolate and dry.

And we talked about facing discouragement and fear.

If you missed any of those programs,

you can go to Revive Our Hearts.com

and listen through our archives. or you can review those episodes on

the Revive Our Hearts app. Over the next two days, we're focusing on enduring through persecution.

Now, if we're honest, sometimes here in the United States, we forget how relevant this topic is.

And that's because, for the most part, we get to worship freely.

We show up to our local church every week without fear. We're comfortable and safe.

But my dear friend, Dr. Karen Ellis, is here to remind us that the majority of our brothers and

sisters around the world face a different reality.

Karen is the director of the Edmiston Center at Reformed Theological Seminary in Atlanta,

where she teaches practical theology courses on Christian endurance in the face of cultural hostility.

She's an advocate for the global persecuted church, raising awareness and promoting

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