Are you afraid persecution will overtake the church?

Karen Ellis says,

We don't need to fear any earthly empire.

It can never hate us more than we can love its people.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgerman, author of Facing Our Fears.

For September 12, 2025, I'm Dana Gresh.

Do you ever wonder how you would respond to intense religious persecution?

I mean, we hear about horrific situations Christians are facing in other parts of the world, and it's easy to think,

wow, could I hold up, could I endure that kind of difficulty?

Well, my friend Karen Ellis serves as an advocate for the global persecuted church,

and she says there's so much we can learn from our brothers and sisters around the world.

In some cases, they're facing serious persecution.

But here's the amazing thing.

They're flourishing in spite of it. Today we're going to

listen to part two of a session Karen led at True Woman 22. It's called persecution, perseverance,

and the key to sustaining faith. On yesterday's program, which, by the way, if you missed it,

you'll find it on the Revive Our Hearts app,

Karen helped us answer the question, who are the people of God? Now here's Dr. Karen Ellis,

continuing that message. What's our responsibility to each other? I already talked about how the church is now feeding us.

The global church is now feeding us how I got over.

It's an old song, how I got over.

They're telling us how they're getting over.

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