Welcome back to Performance Process, everybody. Process? What do we design on, Ronan?

I think we've decided after we've recorded the episode we're about to introduce

that we're going to decide what we're going to decide on using so we haven't yet

decided if it's process or process.

We'll put a vote out there to all the listeners whether we want to say process or process

depending on course on your accent but we'll pick one and stick with it going

forward anyway we have a great show for you today we have a fascinating show for you today

we've Ronan and I have already conducted this interview so we know just how good it is Ronan I have already conducted this interview so we know just how good it is.

Ronan, who are we talking with?

We are chatting to Matthew Heibor, who is head of performance at Yombo-Vizma and an absolutely

fascinating individual who talks us through everything

from the shit days as he described them of 2015 where the team won six races right up to today when obviously the team has won all three

grantors this season and has 70 odd names and victories to its name already this year.

So yeah, absolutely fascinating conversation throughout.

Yeah, he gets into kind of luring what Van Art over

or in the early days, because if you recall, what came over or in the early days because if you recall what came over before the

team was was any good talked about how kind of their process was a big part of

what pulled him in the door and what convinced him to join the program and you could argue that

bringing in a talent like that probably was very helpful in bringing in additional talents too.

So yeah we talked about that We talked about his involvement in rider training, in sort of the

physiology side of things, as well as on the equipment side, how they picked their shoes,

for example

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