Welcome to Unbiased Science, where we bring scientific method to the madness. I'm your host, Dr. Jess Steyer.

You'll notice that Dr. Sarah Scheinman is not joining me today. I am instead joined by not one, not two, but three pediatricians.

My co-host for the day is going to be Dr. David Higgins, who is, actually, I'll read his

bio in just a second, but he is just a brilliant pediatrician and infectious disease specialist,

who I am so honored is a regular contributor to unbiased science. I will kick things off to let you

know that I have the flu. Flu B has hit my

household quite hard. So I am feeling a little bit like Bernie and weakened at Bernie's.

I might be leading on my co-host a bit more than usual today.

So let me just briefly introduce Dr. David Higgins to you.

It is an impressive bio that does not do all of his experience justice.

But Dr. David Higgins is a pediatrician and public health physician based in Colorado, whose work focuses on vaccine delivery,

communication, and immunization policy. He studies how vaccines are delivered in real-world pediatric

practice and how conversations, health systems, and public messaging shape vaccine decisions.

He serves in leadership roles with the American Academy of

Pediatrics and Immunized Colorado and is a frequent contributor to unbiased science. His writing and

commentary have appeared in major national outlets where he translates complex vaccine science

and policy into clear, accessible information. David, thank you so much for being here today.

Oh, thanks, Jess. No, it's such a pleasure to co-host this with you. And today, I really, I want to be here

as a pediatrician, as a pediatrician who still takes care of kids and families and loves doing that.

So it's a pleasure to be here. And so David and I co-authored a report that we

pushed out through the nonprofit, the Center for Unbiased Science and Health, about, I don't even

a couple of months ago at this point. We'll reshare the link to our show notes. But basically,

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