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What's good about it is it doesn't matter that you're not growing because you're in your

50s and the thing about your 50s is you have power.

And the reason you have power in your 50s is you have power. And the reason you have power in your

50s is all your clients are always your age. So all those people you grew up

with there in their 50s too and they've got power so they can actually give

you some decent work. This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.com.

Design Matters is on summer break and we'll be back with the new season in the fall.

In the meantime, we're sharing some of the live interviews Debbie has recently done in front of an audience.

This one with designer Paula Shear took place in January 2018 in Atlanta as part of an AIGA conference.

Here's Debbie Nomen, live with Paula Share.

I want to start by sharing something with you, my friend Jane Dorn, who is in the audience,

she reminded me this morning that the last time you and I had a Design Matters interview,

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