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Silverstein hired me for the op-ed page, and to me that was the greatest job I could have thought of,

that I could have dreamed of.

And for my parents,

oy, they, it's like being a doctor.

I mean, the New York Times, my son.

None of the screw stuff.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from designobserver.com.

For 14 years now, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative people about what they do,

how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

Design Matters is on summer break and we'll be back with a new season in the fall.

In the meantime, we're sharing some of the live interviews Debbie has recently done in front of an audience.

This one with author and art director Stephen Heller took place in January 2018 in Atlanta as part of an AIGA conference.

It was presented by the Museum of Design Atlanta in partnership with a Miami Ad School

at Portfolio Center.

Here's Debbie Millman, live with Stephen Heller.

I read that when you were a kid, you had a precocious streak, and you made publications and then tried to sell them.

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