Hey, it's Anne. If you've listened to this podcast, you know I interview women who are dealing

with their husband's lies, anger, or infidelity. And since I've been doing this for over 10 years,

and I've interviewed over 200 women and counting, we know exactly how to help women in this situation.

If you relate to anything you hear in this episode, we can help you today. I created our live

daily group sessions because when I was going through it, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't

find the help I needed. The entire BTR team has been through it too, so we know how to anticipate

the issues you're likely to face when you discover your husband's lives or infidelity. No matter where you live,

no matter where you are in the world, we can help you immediately. Check out our group session schedule

at BTR.org slash group. I've invited Dave Colley, an investigative journalist and host of the

cold podcast back on today's episode. We have already talked about season one of the cold podcast back on today's episode. We have already talked about

season one of the cold podcast, which we re-aired last week. That episode is called

Signs Your Husband Might Kill You. It's important for every woman who's experiencing emotional and

psychological abuse to be able to recognize it because physical abuse never happens in a vacuum.

Dave and I are going to talk as if you've heard all of the cold podcast, seasons one, two, and three.

And if you haven't, don't worry, you'll still really benefit from listening to our analysis as we discuss the themes of all three seasons.

Welcome, Dave.

Thank you so much, Anna.

I appreciate being with you.

So the three seasons of the cold podcast, Dave, you cover in season one, the murder of

Susan Powell, in season two, the murder of Joyce Yost, and in season three, the murder of

Sheree Warren.

And you start season three by introducing us to a man named Carrie Hartman. And you describe his abusive behavior toward women

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