Hey, it's Anne. If you've listened to this podcast, you know I interview women who are dealing

with their husband's lies, anger, or infidelity. And since I've been doing this for over 10 years,

and I've interviewed over 200 women and counting, we know exactly how to help women in this situation.

If you relate to anything you hear in this episode, we can help you today. I created our live

daily group sessions because when I was going through it, no matter how hard I tried, I couldn't

find the help I needed. The entire BTR team has been through it too, so we know how to anticipate

the issues you're likely to face when you discover your husband's lives or infidelity. No matter where you live,

no matter where you are in the world, we can help you immediately. Check out our group session schedule

at BTR.org slash group. I recorded this interview in 2019 at a very intense time during my ex-husband's

post-separation abuse. I interviewed Dave Colley,

host of the Cold Podcast, and I want to give a shout out. He was so willing to listen to me back in 2019.

So thank you from the bottom of my heart for using that interview as a way to learn more about my story and other victims.

I genuinely felt like he cared about me personally and that he cared for all victims.

So a thank you to Dave Colley and all men who are standing up for abuse victims.

I'm really excited to have Dave Colley with us today.

Dave is a graduate of the University of Utah's

Journalism School and then went to work as a field reporter in Salt Lake City. Dave joined KSL,

and then in 2018 he moved into a new role as executive producer of digital content.

On December 14, 2018, KSL and Dave launched the podcast series Cold, the first season, focused on the unsolved disappearance of Susan Powell.

That story was close to Dave because he reported on Susan's suspected murder from the beginning in December 2009 and continues to dig for new details.

Cold reached number one on the Apple podcast chart on the day of its release. Welcome, Dave.

Thanks, Ann. I really appreciate being on. The story of Susan Powell broke the year after I was married. I got married in 2008. And so in 2009, when Susan first went missing, I was following the story closely.

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