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Kindled Podcast | Truth and Grace, Boldly

Part 2: Critically Evaluating Candace Owens | Natalie J. Beisner | Ep. 262

Kindled Podcast | Truth and Grace, Boldly

Haley Williams

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.5627 Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Join me as I discuss and analyze Candace Owens recent "investigation" into Charlie Kirk's death with guest Natalie Beisner.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Kindled. I'm your host, Haley, and today I have part two for you of my conversation with Natalie Jean Bisoner.

0:25.7

I actually intended to release this the day after I released part one, but life got away from me.

0:31.3

And here we are a week later, and I'm just now getting to releasing it.

0:35.8

So, you know, I would actually love for this to be the last conversation that I have on Candace Owens.

0:41.9

I hope that that can be the case.

0:44.7

The reason I've continued to share about it, speak about it, and comment is because you guys are listening.

0:52.3

You guys are coming to me with questions.

1:12.4

You are sending me DMs. You are sending me things she's posting. You're asking my thoughts. And, you know, more than anything, and a lot of times what I do when people do send me these questions is I say, well, a lot of times here's the question I'll get is, what would you say to this? And then I say, I turned around and I say, what would you say to that? Because I don't, I don't want anyone to outsource their thinking to me. I don't want to think for you. And I don't

1:17.5

want anyone to come to me as they're, you know, the person who has to validate what they believe or think is true. However, with this situation, I think a lot of people have

1:32.2

echo chambers around them or they have, I shouldn't even say echo chambers, but they have

1:37.1

potentially networks or communities where they feel like they're the only one who thinks

1:43.8

something's fishy, who thinks something

1:46.4

or is critically evaluating some of the things Candace has said, and they can second-guess

1:53.0

themselves in that.

1:54.6

And so at the very least, maybe this is just one more voice telling you it's okay,

2:00.7

and you should, in fact,

2:02.1

critically evaluate everyone who says every, you know, anyone who says anything, right? We all have

2:07.9

the ability, because we have God's word as our standard of truth, we can always bring things

2:12.4

back to his word and compare and contrast. How is this person behaving? What are they saying? Does this

2:17.4

really align with scripture? Or is this flying behaving? What are they saying? Does this really align with

2:18.6

scripture or is this flying in the face of it and going against it? We all have the ability to

2:23.5

exercise that muscle and build our discernment so that hopefully you don't have to come to me.

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