Hello and welcome back to the Get Your Globe Up podcast, a wellness podcast to help you get your

glow back. I'm joined today by parenting expert Joanna Fortune. Joanna is a clinical psychotherapist who

specialises in child development and attachment. On today's episode, we speak all about her new book, 15-minute parenting,

and all about the importance of play, how to deal with whining, and limits around screen time.

She is fantastic and has insight into every part of parenting that can be quite difficult.

It's such a fascinating conversation and she provides lots of insights, not only about parenting, but about self-development and understanding

yourself too. Let's bring on the amazing Joanna. Joanna, welcome to the podcast. I'm so delighted to be here.

Thank you so much for having me.

No, I'm so excited to have you.

I feel like your books give the answers to every parenting question on the planet.

So I'm unbelievably grateful to have your books and also have the chance to have

a chat with you. I would love to start talking about play because this is something you're

really passionate about. And I really love this thing that you say in the book, which is about

giving your presence not presence the physical

and I absolutely love that and I would just love to talk about why play is so important to children

because we know children love to play but what's so important about it and what does it do

for their brains and their development I I would love to know more.

Yeah, you know, it's really important for me. Play is not a box of toys that sit in the corner of a room.

Play is a state of mind and it's a way of being. And nobody embodies that philosophy more than

children do. They're just masters at the art of, we'd call it

mindfulness. They call it play. It's their way of being in the moment right now, what's happening

around me and how can I make sense of it without getting too abstract at the same time I have

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