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podcast contains explicit language. Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parent Like its 1985 edition.

I'm Gabriel Roth.

I'm the editorial director of Slate Podcasts and I'm the father of Leo who's four and

Eliza who is eight. I'm Rebecca Lervoy. I'm the father of Leo who is four and italyza who is eight.

I'm a journalist and podcaster in New Hampshire and I am mom to Henry who is 17,

Teddy who is 15 and a half, and my stepdaughter Lily who is 18. And I'm Carver Wallace a writer and

in podcaster in Oakland, California,

and I'm the father to Georgia, who is 13,

and Ezra who was 15.

Today on our show, we have a question about an overprotective daycare center and another about what to do when it's your kids who are excluding other kids from neighborhood fun times.

Plus, as always we will have triumph and Fails. We'll share recommendations

and on our Slate Plus Bonus segment, mom and dad are fighting host, Emeritus Dan Coise joins to

share a parenting Triumph. But first first it's time for triumphs and fails.

Rebecca, Triumph for Fail.

I've got a small triumph, but before I get to that, I just want to thank our own Carvel Wallace for being my personal

parenting support group this weekend when I experienced something very

similar to the fail he described last time and my younger son Teddy was just in a super teenage place

and just full of drama and swirling and I got totally sucked in and I texted

Carvel to commiserate and he texted me back and I want to thank you for that Carvel.

It just goes to show that we can get each other through these stupid fails when they happen.

But on to my Triumph and Triumph is that, which is that this year, I think probably for the first time, all three of our kids are totally holiday gift self-reliant where they all have are doing their own

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