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Welcome to Mom and Dad are Fighting, Slate's Parenting Podcasts for Thursday, November 29th, the Family Game Night Edition.

I'm Gabriel Roth. I'm the editorial director of Slate Podcast, and I'm the father of Leo, who is four, and Eliza, who just turned eight. Happy birthday, Eliza. Happy birthday. I'm Rebecca LaVoy, a journalist and podcaster in New Hampshire, and I am mom to Henry, who is 17, Teddy, who is 15 and a half, and my stepdaughter, Lily, who is 18. And I'm Carvo Wallace, writer and podcaster in Oakland, California,

and I'm the father to Georgia who is 13, and Ezra who is 15. Today on our show, we'll talk to writer

Noel Murray about Slate's package, the 40 Greatest Family Games. What games should you be playing

with your kids and what games should you be sure to avoid?

We've also got a question from a listener.

What do you do when your atheist family has a very religious in-law who insists on saying grace?

Plus, as always, we'll have triumphs and fails.

We'll make recommendations.

And on Slate Plus this week, more dish on Teddy LaVoy's love life.

If you want to hear that segment, slate.com slash mom and dad plus.

First up, triumphs and fails.

Carvel, you want to go first?

Triumph or fail?

Yeah, I wouldn't say, yeah, I feel like there's been a long, a fail in general.

That's just been, it's just been really weird, the mood here.

I think part of this is like the seasonal effective stuff, which I feel like is kind of getting to everyone.

I don't usually get that.

And I know that sounds weird in California, but it's been cold and rainy.

And that's part of it,

but I also think a part of it is that we literally just went through an experience where the entire Bay Area had to wear gas masks 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

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