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Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about whether it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich man as a man who can't even afford to work out at equinox.

Can you even imagine? I certainly can't the horror. This week in episode 12 of Bachelor in Paradise, Rodney and Logan try desperately to retake those tests that they failed.

Last week, Erin finds fun and creative new ways to stress Genevieve out and Wells invites himself on Danielle and Michael's romantic date.

Real real main character energy from that one.

Paradise is coming to an end in just a few more extremely long weeks. So it's time for everyone to get serious.

And today for our very serious discussion and recap, we're so glad to be joined by two time Emmy award winning last week tonight writer, Vulture, Bachelor, Recaper, icon, Ali Barthwell.

Ali, thank you so much for being here.

Oh, thank you so much for having me and thank you for agreeing to the conditions in my writer that I will be referred to as an icon. Thank you so much.

I was like, we can't leave out any of her accolades, including just being iconic. Yeah. I mean, you are our personal icon.

Thank you so much. So glad to be among icons and legends again.

I will say.

You're your natural setting. So let's get into this episode. We are relieved that it's shorter than most of the week's only one night of paradise content, but it's still somehow felt kind of endless.

And I still have a lot of notes about some bullshit. So let's get started. It's just dour like the mood on the beach is dour like who amongst us is having fun.

No one's having fun. No one on the beach is having fun. We personally are not having fun, which is upsetting because I want to have a lot to do that. That's what this is for and that like honestly it makes me question my own identity as a monogamous because as we have watched the seasons go on and monogamy slowly evolves on the show.

It just seems so much more depressing like shouldn't it be fun chaos people dumping each other to go on dates with whoever walks through and instead it's like no one date now you're together. I can't believe you hurt him.

Yeah, you met one person that person liked you. Don't fuck it up.

Yeah, somehow the forces outside the show are like influencing too much. The people on the beach are influencing each other too much and then just sort of like I don't know like because we're in a recession everyone's like pure tanical and money minded like something happening that oh my god.

No one wants to have any fun in like day around.

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