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Hello and welcome to owning it the Anxiety Podcast with me, Caroline Forin.

This week my guest is Danielle Moyles. She's a TV presenter, model, yoga teacher, DJ.

She has so many strings to her bow. And the most recent one she has added is a number one bestselling author several weeks in a row and her book is called jump which chronicles her experience of crippling

anxiety during a period in her life when things could not have appeared to be better from the

outside looking in eventually d'angela did find her own way to own her anxiety and confront the

driving forces behind it and in order to achieve this clarity,

she did the complete opposite of what I would have done when my anxiety was so bad and that was to book a one-way flight around the world.

I would have been absolutely terrified. I really enjoyed this chat and had I known when my anxiety was so bad that someone like

Daniela who seemed so perfect to me and so together in every way

again from the outside looking in if i knew that someone like her could experience a similar kind

of anxiety to me i would have felt so much less alone and i think it's just a reminder again that

you know anxiety is something that can affect every single one of us i hope you enjoyed and definitely

go and read her book if you get a chance.

It's called Jump and it's out now.

I suppose to start, people I'm sure will look at you and look at your Instagram and people

would have said to you as they would have said to me, sure what have you got to be anxious about?

So has anyone ever said that to you?

That's so funny.

I think the line that I got,

and I actually wrote this in the book,

was,

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