Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series Real Time with Bill Ma.

Okay Susan Rice do you have confidence that all votes will be counted fairly in the 2020 election?

Yeah.

Well here's what I have confidence.

I don't.

First of all the key thing is whether people get to vote and whether their opportunity once they have voted

is respected so we don't want another re reprise of what happened in Georgia for example.

But if the issue is whether interference from foreigners can manipulate the vote tally that's a lot harder than some people might think.

Yeah.

And that's because our electoral systems in the states are distinct from one another they're not hooked up to the internet and they've actually been reinforced.

So in terms of foreign interference I have some degree of confidence in terms of what state election authorities might do to try to disenfranchise certain segments of the population that I have more concern about.

What do you think?

What does everybody think about the bet I was making with him?

Well is it a little bit?

Do you think he would take my if he would?

Yeah.

I mean I happily give my last penny.

But I mean I've been you know I've been saying for a very long time now that I don't think he's leaving.

I mean he wasn't going to leave the first time it was all about it's rigged.

He could lose by a landslide in 2020 and I still think he would say it's rigged fake news deep state.

I just don't think you're going to get him out of there.

But Bill if he left office what would you talk about in your monologue?

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