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Outward: The Pleasures and Politics of Cruising

Slate Books

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3.8546 Ratings

🗓️ 19 July 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

This month, taking a cue from the sultry, sensual heat of summer, Outward examines the venerable queer practice of cruising—for sex and sex work—in public space. First, hosts Christina Cauterucci, Jules Gill-Peterson, and Bryan Lowder make eyes at Park Cruising, a new essay collection on cruising in parks, which explores the pleasures, politics, and complexities of that gay pastime. Author Marcus McCann joins the hosts to discuss those themes. Then they head down to Christopher Street with the trans women of The Stroll, a new HBO documentary streaming on Max, as they revisit a time when New York’s now-gentrified Meatpacking District was rich with a unique and affirming form of sisterhood. Co-director Kristen Lovell stops by to discuss the making of the film. The hosts end the show, as always, with some new additions to the Gay Agenda. Items discussed in the show: “The Real Story of 303 Creative v. Elenis,” by Mark Joseph Stern in Slate Outward’s Times Square billboard A provocative chant at NYC Drag March Park Cruising: What Happens When We Wander Off the Path, by Marcus McCann The Stroll The Lady and the Dale Sylvia’s Place Sylvia Rivera, Marsha P. Johnson, and STAR Gay Agenda Christina: Rock Hudson: All That Heaven Allowed from HBO Jules: Hari Nef’s interviews about her role in Barbie  Bryan: Taylor Mac’s 24-Decade History of Popular Music (see also Hugh Ryan on the show’s history) This podcast was edited by Emily Charash and produced by June Thomas. Please send feedback, topic ideas, and advice questions to outwardpodcast@slate.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to another edition of Outward Slate's monthly show about LGBTQ culture, politics, life, and whatever else we fancy, because we as a people are, if nothing

0:22.0

else, fancy.

0:24.2

I'm Ryan Lauder.

0:25.1

I'm an editor at Slate, and if you guys don't hear from me in the next month, it's because

0:29.3

my summer crush on the microgreens and mushrooms guy at my CSA pickup has really blossomed,

0:36.3

and I might have become an urban, like, co-op farm

0:39.0

meta, and that's kind of my life path, I think, right now, for the rest of the summer, at least.

0:44.0

I'm surprised you weren't already on that path.

0:48.0

I'm Christina Cotarucci, a senior writer at Slate. So great to be back.

0:53.0

And I'm Jules Gil Peterson, feeling hot and humid,

0:56.9

but that's just because of the weather. Well, actually, you're sort of apropos of the introduction

1:05.1

I have for the show. This month, we are taking a cue from the sultry essential heat of summer that's finally here in July,

1:13.4

and we're going to take a look at the venerable queer practice of cruising for sex and for sex work in public space.

1:21.0

First, we'll be making eyes at a new essay collection on cruising and parks, called very helpfully Park Cruising,

1:27.3

that explores the pleasures,

1:29.1

the politics, and complexities of that gay old pastime. The book's author, Marcus McCann,

1:34.1

will join us to discuss. Then we'll head down to Christopher Street with the trans women of the stroll,

1:40.0

a new HBO documentary that's streaming on Max as they revisit a time when New York's now grossly gentrified meatpacking district was rich with Johns, and more importantly, a unique and affirming form of sisterhood.

1:52.6

Kristen Lovell, the director of the film, will be here as well.

1:56.6

Finally, we'll have your monthly updates to the gay agenda, but first, it is time, as always,

2:02.3

for a round of prides and provocations.

2:05.4

Jules, why don't you start us off?

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