The Waves: Forever Barbie
Slate Books
Slate Podcasts
3.8 • 546 Ratings
🗓️ 20 July 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode of The Waves, it’s all about Barbie. Slate senior producer Cheyna Roth sits down with M.G. Lord, author of Forever Barbie and co-host of “LA Made: The Barbie Tapes” from LAist and So Cal Public Radio. They discuss the history of the Barbie doll and how she’s managed to endure, how Barbie might actually be feminist, and what the new Greta Gerwig movie gets right about Barbie.
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Podcast production by Cheyna Roth with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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| 0:00.0 | I was a Barbie girl. |
| 0:07.8 | You used to love setting everything up and putting everything in place and then you would |
| 0:12.3 | kind of role play and act out. You would especially get excited when the catalog |
| 0:19.3 | would come out and they'd have all the latest Barbie stuff in the |
| 0:23.6 | catalog and I think you went through and marked everything in there for Barbie. |
| 0:27.6 | Do you know why I liked Barbie so much? |
| 0:30.6 | No, I don't. I don't. I really don't. |
| 0:34.6 | That's my mom, Cheryl Rukowski. We're sitting in my childhood bedroom with my niece, Chloe Esther High. |
| 0:42.4 | How long can you play Barbies for? |
| 0:45.5 | 30 minutes to an hour. |
| 0:48.0 | And how many Barbies would you say that you have? |
| 0:51.2 | Um, a lot, like, two toadsful. |
| 0:55.3 | And we get for our birthday sometimes, like, when we ask for the Barbies, we add them to |
| 1:02.3 | our collections of them. |
| 1:05.2 | We are three generations of Barbie lovers. |
| 1:10.5 | Do you remember your first Barbie? Yes, I do. It was the 1959 Barbie, and I still have it. |
| 1:19.3 | Back when I was growing up, we had a few Barbies, not a lot, and most of the clothes were homemade. |
| 1:31.2 | My mom would knit clothes for us for the Barbies. |
| 1:36.9 | You had a story about a girl on your street who had like all the Barbies. |
| 1:37.8 | Can you tell me about her? |
| 1:38.4 | Yes. |
| 1:51.6 | She lived down at the end of the row and she had Barbies and we could look at her barbies and she had rebates and she had Barbies, and we could look at her Barbies, and she had real clothes, real Barbie clothes, not homemade clothes. |
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