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The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Outsmarting Narcissists: The Praise or Provoke Trap

The Jefferson Fisher Podcast

Civility Media

Relationships, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Education

5 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Ever feel like you’re talking to a wall when dealing with someone who just won’t take accountability? You might be dealing with a narcissist—or at least someone showing strong narcissistic behaviors. In this episode, I break down exactly how to talk to those people without losing your cool, your confidence, or your sanity. Whether this person is your boss, your sibling, or your partner—you’ll walk away from this episode knowing exactly how to protect your peace when things get heated. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today. Like what you hear? Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show!  Want a FREE communication tip each week? Click here to join my newsletter.  Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube  Follow me on Instagram  Follow me on TikTokFollow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:29.6

How do you talk to a narcissist? I know what you want to say. You don't. You don't, Jefferson.

0:59.3

That's not reality. It sounds nice. It sounds really nice, but it's not reality. Why? Because more than likely, you're related to one. You're married to one. You work with one or you work for one. There are people who exhibit narcissistic behaviors everywhere, and there are those that we might deem a narcissist. How do you handle it?

1:07.7

All that more coming up. Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast, where I'm

1:12.7

on a mission to make your next conversation the one that changes everything. If you're listening

1:16.9

to this right now, and if you're interested in improving your conversations, I'm going to ask you

1:21.7

to please click subscribe or follow or like or leave a comment. Why? Because it tells whatever you're listening to,

1:29.3

whatever platform, that this is good stuff. And if you like learning good stuff, if you are

1:34.3

interested in being a better communicator listening to this podcast, I promise you will make

1:38.8

you a better communicator. And that's my promise to you. Thank you very much. This episode is brought to you by

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Cozy Earth. Cozy Earth has these bamboo sheets. And let me tell you, they are on my bed at this

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