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listening. Terms apply. Hi, this is Laura Vanderkim. I'm a mother of four, an author,

journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger. I'm a mother of three, an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Unger.

I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger on the side.

We are two working parents who love our careers and our families.

Welcome to Best of Both worlds.

Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, and time for fun.

From figuring out child care to mapping out long-term

career goals, we want you to get the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. This is Laura.

This is episode at 93. We'll be interviewing the founder of the new podcast called The Double Shift. That's Catherine Goldstein.

This episode is airing close to Mother's Day. So, of course, various issues related to

motherhood and working on everyone's mind this week. And so we're looking forward to hearing from

Catherine about how she is approaching covering this topic and the things she's coming up with.

Her phrase, the double shift, of course, generally refers to the extra work, the domestic

work that women do on top of their paid work related to Arley Huss-child's book,

The Second Shift, that came out several decades ago.

I know that Sarah and I have sort of spent a lot of time thinking about how to

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