Today's podcast guests started out as an engineer, but then pivoted and became a patent attorney.

Find out how that happened and why and when Amazon sellers would need patents for their products.

Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the serious sellers podcast by Helium 10. I'm your host, Bradley Sutton. And this is the show that's a completely BS-free, unscripted, and un-rehearsed, organic conversation about serious strategies for serious sellers of any level in the e-commerce world. And today, again, we have an in-house guest, not a remote one sitting across the table

here from me is the one and only rich gold scene. Rich, how's it going?

Well, thanks. Now, this is not your first time, definitely, of course, to Orange County. I think

I might have related this experience before, but it's not one of my better moments, but you were out here a few months ago for the elite workshop, right? Yep, that we had, came out here with Leeron, and then we went to a club afterwards. We were thinking we're all bougie out, or I was thinking I was all bougie, had a bottle service at a table.

And then you come in, you know, I was there already. You come in and you come in with a little, like a little baggy. And it had these like very colorful small things. And I was like, whoa, that's so nice of rich to offer me these. And you put a couple in my hand. I was like, these are some great looking gummy bears.

So, of course, I pop it into my mouth.

And I'm like, these are some great looking gummy bears. So, of course, I pop it into my mouth.

And I'm like, these are not very good.

Yeah, these are not very good taste.

And why, you know, the music is very loud and Rich is making all these hand gestures and say no, no, no, no.

And so why were you saying no, no, Rich?

Because it was an earplug.

They were earplugs. The Jewish mother and me brought earplugs for everyone so that we could tolerate the evening

of being in loud music at the club.

Now, whenever I see you here in Orange County, I just go back to go back to there.

And I know we're about to film some things in the tequila tasting room soon. So whenever I think of alcohol, I'm like going to think of these earplugs that I

thought were gumming bears. But anyways, I always start out these podcasts, trying to get a little

background. And I love showing people that, you know, we don't only interview Amazon sellers here,

but whether they're Amazon sellers, whether

they're in any way related to the e-commerce world, we have never had two guests with even

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