Welcome to the Black Girl Burnout podcast. Kelly here. And this week is truly fun and special for me for a couple reasons. The first reason is who the guest is. We have Lauren Birdie.

Lauren Birdie is well known as That Twin Mama on social media platforms. Lauren herself is a

creative life coach, a retreat planner, and a content creator. She inspires through laughter and

authenticity and believes that one of

the most powerful tools to support mothers is normalizing realistic portrayals of motherhood

in an effort to dismantle shame, guilt, and the unattainable idea of perfection that society often

enforces on mother's postpartum. That twin mama village of hers,

her community has over 500,000 followers across various social media channels. Lauren is simply a delight.

She is someone who I have met quite incidentally on my journey as a podcaster.

And she is a podcaster herself.

Her new podcast, that twin mama podcast, has released.

It is phenomenal.

And it just further showcases all the sides to Lauren that we just scratch the surface

on in this week's conversation. I've told you before

that it's really important for me as someone who's consciously chosen to not be a mother

to center the discussions about motherhood in this podcast and in my life. I want to celebrate

what is possibly the most important job in the world, which is being a mom.

And I want black women in particular to feel seen and appreciated and encouraged in their pursuit of motherhood,

to have the tools to be not just good mothers, but joyful moms.

I really want to create a legacy of inspiring and

sustaining joy in black women so that all the generations coming after us have that joy.

And Lauren is one of those women who is doing that important work. I cannot wait for you to hear our conversation

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