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Hello, I'm Jody Martinson, producer of other people's problems, and I'm here with

Hillary McBride, a clinical counselor, and the person who has very bravely allowed us into

her office to hear her sessions with her clients.

We're going to talk about her approach to therapy

to help us understand a little bit more

about what we hear in these sessions.

And we're also going to talk about

what it's been like for her to make this podcast

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