So, Avial is still very early.

We are still building?

We are still building the MVP right now?

So I would say like three, six months where we're going to start looking at the Montessian.

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Yes, fantastic.

I'm super excited to be here.

You bet.

Okay, so tell us how you guys make money.

Is it a pure SaaS play that folks can use?

So Avial is still very early.

We are still building the MVP right now.

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