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🗓️ 28 September 2023
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Nick and Mike sat down for an in-depth discussion of what it would take for Ukraine to achieve a true breakthrough against Russian forces. Mike also evaluated Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s recent visit to Washington, D.C., Ukraine’s strike on Russia's Black Sea Fleet headquarters and the potential impact of ATACMS.
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the War on the Rocks podcast, covering strategy, defense, and foreign affairs. |
0:16.8 | My name is Nicholas Stanforth. |
0:18.3 | I'm here with Mike Kaufman, as always to discuss, what are we discussing like? |
0:23.4 | We're going to talk about the course of the war, go through some updates, and then look at perhaps |
0:29.3 | the most recent developments in terms of the recent visit to Washington, by Ukraine's President Zeyensky, discussions |
0:38.3 | regarding provision of further military assistance, and perhaps some reflections on where we stand in the offensive. |
0:45.0 | So start us off with the current situation on the ground in eastern Ukraine? |
0:49.0 | So I think Ukrainian force have made some notable progress particularly around Bachmut. |
0:54.6 | They've been fighting for some months over towns on the southern flank of the city, Klishivka |
1:00.0 | and Andrievka, and it looks like they finally been able to capture Klishifka. |
1:04.4 | I think more interesting would be if they press further south and take areas |
1:08.8 | of relative high ground like Kourdumvka and towns that essentially give them better topographical |
1:15.9 | position but in general it looks like Ukrainian forces have made some progress around |
1:21.1 | Bahmut over the last two weeks. If you look further south, the Ukrainian military was making, I would say, incremental progress over the last couple of weeks, but in the last few days have tried a renewed push. |
1:35.0 | It's a bit difficult to tell how much they vest into the effort around Verbova. |
1:40.0 | It's clear that they're trying to take this town and they're trying to advance through |
1:44.7 | What I've typically framed as the second Russian line of defense, but is also often referred to as the main line of defense or the first kind of |
1:53.9 | sewer-veekin line of the defense unfortunately it has different names and we've |
1:57.7 | discussed the reason for the confusion how to disambiguate this before on |
2:01.6 | past podcast I think that the best way to think of it is, you know, this is the line that has |
2:06.5 | the dragon teeth, the antitang dink and the other machine dug trenches on Placements. |
2:12.9 | That said, the lynchpin of that part of line defense |
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