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Finding the Floor: Can the U.S. and China Stabilize Their Relationship?

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 October 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Nick sat down with Evan Medeiros, Thomas Shugart and Emily Weinstein to take stock of where U.S.-Chinese relations stand today and where they might be going. Can President Biden’s diplomatic push pay off? How will Taiwan’s elections and Beijing’s internal shakeup change the equation? What lessons is President Xi Jinping actually learning from the invasion of Ukraine? And can the U.S. and China ultimately find a stable floor for their bilateral relationship or are they headed toward conflict?

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0:00.0

Welcome to the War on the Rocks podcast covering strategy, defense, and foreign affairs.

0:17.0

I'm Nicholas Danforth, editor and host of today's show.

0:21.0

I'm sitting down here with three of Washington's top experts on U.S. China relations

0:25.1

to discuss how the relationship is going. We'll get their thoughts on America's

0:29.7

recent push for diplomacy with China. Beijing's response, some of the hurdles, either military,

0:36.0

diplomatic or economic, and of course what this all means for the future of both countries.

0:41.6

So with that, let me introduce my panelists. Going from left to right, we have

0:47.7

Emily Weinstein, a research fellow at Georgetown's Center for Security and Emerging

0:52.1

Technology, and a non-resident fellow with the Atlantic

0:55.2

Council's Global China Hub.

0:58.2

We also have Evan Mederos, the Hinter Family Chair in Asia Studies in the School of Foreign Service.

1:04.0

He previously served for six years on the staff of the National Security Council

1:08.0

as Director for China, Taiwan, and Mongolia, and then a Special Assistant to the president and senior director for Asia.

1:14.1

You also, I saw you had some absurd number of like seven books that you'd published and you have

1:18.3

one new one.

1:20.1

That's right, I've got a new one, it's called Cold Rivals, the new era of U.S. China's strategic competition.

1:25.3

It's a collection of essays that I edited among American and Chinese scholars trying to understand

1:32.3

how did we get here what strategic

1:34.0

competition all about and where is it going to go? So if you have any questions left

1:38.6

after you listen to Evan on the podcast encourage you to buy the book. Thanks Nick.

1:44.0

Finally, Tom Schugart, an adjunct senior fellow with the Defense Program at the Center for

1:49.4

a New American Security.

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