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One Thing: The Supreme Court Enters the Debate Over Transgender Athletes

CNN 5 Things

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Daily News, News

4.3 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 January 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

The Supreme Court will hear oral arguments this week in a case that could decide whether states may ban transgender students from playing on sports teams that align with their gender identity. It comes as President Donald Trump has moved to punish institutions that are inclusive of trans athletes. We break down the legal case and hear from a transgender former college athlete who says this is about way more than a game.  For more: Do transgender women have an athletic advantage? Here’s what the science does – and doesn’t – say  ---  Guests: Mayumi Berry, former NCAA athlete & John Fritze, CNN Supreme Court Reporter   Host: David Rind  Producer: Paola Ortiz  Showrunner: Felicia Patinkin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is one thing. I'm David Rind, and it's about sports, but it's also about a lot more.

0:05.8

The bigger moment is this huge, I think, backlash almost to the gains that transgender Americans have made over the past decade.

0:15.9

A reckoning over a string of Trump-led policies affecting transgender people is about to arrive at the Supreme Court.

0:22.7

Stick around.

0:25.3

I think after my sophomore year, like, seeing, like, how good I was and how capable I was,

0:32.3

I was like, okay, like, I'm obviously getting a full ride to school.

0:37.1

I mean, that's, I love the confidence.

0:42.1

Myumi Barry started running track in high school.

0:45.1

She was especially good at hurdles. She loved it.

0:47.6

It just became such an escape for me that I was able to grow and excel as much as I did because of how much of like a meditative

0:57.3

practice it was for me.

0:59.2

But when she arrived at Louisiana Tech in 2021 on a scholarship to run on the men's team there,

1:04.7

competing became less of an escape and more of a problem.

1:08.7

That's because Miami is transgender.

1:10.4

She said she started presenting a more feminine appearance during high school and that continued and more of a problem. That's because Mayumi is transgender.

1:14.1

She said she started presenting a more feminine appearance during high school,

1:15.8

and that continued into college.

1:18.4

I was still running on the men's team.

1:20.3

I wasn't taking any hormones,

1:23.6

but I had, like, long hair and nails.

1:34.3

So, like, a lot of times that meets, like, people would be very confused whenever they would call for, like, the men's 400 or the men's 100 hurdles.

1:36.8

I was running under my dead name.

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