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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

You're back with Gene and Chris on the Paracast.

We've got some really exciting stuff to talk about today.

But we're going to talk about something now that is just as exciting. That is, our own Christopher

O'Brien, was one of the featured speakers. At this past week's Paradine Symposium in Minnesota,

can you tell us about it? Sounds fascinating. Yeah, it was good.

Micah Hanks, of course, and Scotty Roberts have both been guests on the show, and this is the second

year they put on this particular conference. It was in a beautiful place in St. Paul. It was the old

Union Station Railroad Terminal. And the conference was in the

in the big cavernous hall, the main hall of the former, I guess, train station, had these

big tall, you know, 60 foot ceilings. So it sounded rather booming in there, but they did have a good sound system.

They did a complete, you know, three-camera video shoot.

And the speakers were all interesting.

I actually attended a few of the lectures, unlike I do at other conferences.

Normally at other conferences, I'm pretty up to speed on what people are going to be presenting on, so I don't often find myself

sitting in those hard chairs. But they had nice, soft, cushy chairs for everybody. And the,

the speaker lineup was very interesting. I have never heard Robert Beval and Robert Schock speak.

John Wharton from the show, Destination Truth, was there.

Of course, today's guest, Nick Redfern was there.

I really was fascinated by his talk and we'll get into what he presented on,

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