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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

Now, I'm starting to think here, Chris O'Brien, that the book stalking of the herd is going to be a pretty big book.

Well, I hope you're talking about Big in Sales.

It's definitely going to be big in terms of its size and the scope of it.

Now, the question I wonder about here is how come nobody else has been able to do this before Chris O'Brien tackled it?

Is it because we're just so wedded to the belief that cattle mutilations, it's just another part of the UFO mystery, maybe a more bizarre aspect?

Well, you know, I think the problems are, there are several issues at play here.

One is having access to all the data.

Obviously, most of these cases, especially the hell years, as I call them in the 70s, this is prior to the internet.

And so in order to have all the cases and, you know, access to the databases, you have to know the players

who were involved back then collecting the data, which fortunately, I'm one of the few people

that pretty much knows everybody who was involved in the field on the civilian investigator's

side. So I have access to the databases and I'm the first one

to really tackle the huge monumental task of collating all these databases together, combining them

with my own work, which I've been researching this subject for over 20 years. So it's really

difficult unless you have,

you know, access to the data to be able to do anything that's objective, that's, that's

comprehensive, that's in-depth. It's just a monumental task. And there's only two, three people

that would be able to do it. And I just happen to be one of them. So I'm, you know, I really want to

throw this thing, you know, like mud, throw it at the wall, see what sticks, and really have,

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