OB219: Don't Rush the Release

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4.8 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2022

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Episode 219 Show Notes

Topic of the show: AG and RH discuss the finer points of departing a non-towered airport with an IFR clearance. Why can't you just depart in VMC and skip the release? What could this pilot have done differently to avoid upsetting the controllers and possibly violating a regulation? We will share our thoughts and get to many more aviation questions.

Timely Feedback:

1. Patron Bravo Sierra shares details about his Class Delta/Bravo transition from last week’s show.
2. Echo Bravo shares his background and explains some of his famous audio of landing and talking to himself.
3. Patron Whiskey Tango Foxtrot explains the origin of facility IDs with numbers.
4. Patron India India shares local insight into an MVA/ODP question.

Feedback

Patron Charlie Tango wants to know the best way to say hello and introduce yourself to ATC.
Patron Juliet Mike shares an audio question about pireps.
Charlie Alpha Mike wants some explanation on how we transition to IFR when weather deteriorates.
Patron Delta Zulu wants to know if we will ever get rid of headings in favor of tracks.
Patron Golf Kilo shares an awesome go/no go decision based on his weather expertise.

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0:00.0	If you wanted to depart VFR on a 1200 code and then call up Airborn and get your
0:06.0	IFR clearance in the air, nobody would have given you a lecture.
0:10.0	But it sounds like you departed without a release on your IFR code and then called them up
0:16.0	to what you called activate the flight plan.
0:18.0	In their mind, you were, it it was active you had a clearance you
0:21.9	just didn't have a release you were an IFR departure that wasn't authorized to leave yeah if you
0:26.7	were on the on your IFR code the controller is freaking out ready this is opposing bases air traffic This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk. Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha
0:44.5	Golf have a combined 40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers.
0:50.9	They answer your questions and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control.
0:56.1	This show is not official guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor,
1:01.1	your pilot examiner, the endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor, your spouse, or your cat.
1:08.4	November 628 Charlie Delta, the Squawk 1-200, frequency of change approved.
1:12.6	The audio will be available on live ATC.
1:14.9	Good day.
1:15.8	November 643, Julie at Mike, third visual, breath, runway, 23 left, Conak Tower.
1:20.1	November 3-222-Yankee, area of heavy to extreme precipitation, 10 o'clock, to 1 o'clock, one o'clock, one five miles, seven miles.
1:28.5	Three zero four seven, charlie, try a departure, later contact, climb and maintain.
1:32.6	November 747, Sierra seven, Sierra seven, zero, your overtaking traffic ahead on final.
1:38.7	Skyhawk seven-seventh angle, IFR can't place to receive, walk via far, frequency change, approved.
1:43.3	Sierra 720 FoxTRAF,
1:45.0	Flaught and 190 Vectors for the visual approach runway, 2-3-Lev.
1:49.0	Intertriad Class Charlie's surface area from the east.
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