OB185: Unvectored, Uncleared, and Unhinged
Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk
Air Traffic Talk
4.8 • 811 Ratings
🗓️ 12 July 2021
⏱️ 77 minutes
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Episode 185 Show Notes
Topic of the show: RH and AG discuss the importance of controllers having a basic understanding of the GPS/RNAV approach and vectors versus initial fix usage. We discuss some easy tips for pilots and controllers to avoid confusion when executing RNAV approaches and issuing clearances.
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| 0:00.0 | What the controller should be doing, in my humble opinion, is sticking with the original. |
| 0:05.0 | Either give them an initial approach fix, clear them fit approach, and leave them alone, or actually |
| 0:11.1 | give them vectors to final because you told them you were going to and never go back and give them |
| 0:16.4 | a fixed name. |
| 0:17.1 | If you as a controller say, fly heading40 vectors to final approach course as the pilot, |
| 0:23.1 | I'm going to wipe out all of that stuff. I get final approach fix and a big line that goes out from |
| 0:29.4 | that standing into forever that I'm then expecting a turn to join. And then maybe you go so far as to |
| 0:37.2 | turn me on base. and then on the base |
| 0:39.6 | somewhere you say clear direct to this fix what ready this is a posing bases air traffic talk your host Romeo hotel and Alpha Golf have a couple of This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk. |
| 0:55.5 | Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha Golf have a combined 40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers. |
| 1:03.8 | They answer your questions and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control. |
| 1:08.9 | This show is not official guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor, |
| 1:13.6 | your pilot examiner, the endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor, your spouse, or your cat. |
| 1:20.6 | November 628 Charlie Delft, the Squawk 120, frequency change approved. |
| 1:25.6 | The audio will be available on live ATC good day |
| 1:28.2 | November 643 juliet mic third visual brush runway two three left Conak Tower |
| 1:32.6 | November 322 to Yankee area of heavy to extreme precipitation to clock to one |
| 1:39.2 | o'clock one five miles seven Charlie try a departure letter contact climb and maintain a |
| 1:45.3 | November 747 Sierra Lema reduce speed to 180 your overtaking traffic ahead on final |
| 1:51.2 | Skyhawk 7 7 7th angle IFR cancellation receives walk via far frequency change approved |
| 1:56.1 | Sierra 720 Fox trial out flattened 190 vectors for the visual approach runway 2311. |
| 2:01.8 | The intertriad class charlie's surface area from the east. |
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