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There are five states in the United States that are essentially a nuclear sponge. That's what they've been called because their whole job in

some kind of full-scale nuclear war would be to absorb a giant attack

presumably from Russia You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts. Hello, welcome to War College. I am your host Matthew Galt. Nuclear War.

These days it feels like we're closer to global thermonuclear annihilation

than at any time since the Cuban missile crisis.

The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, an organization of experts that

calculates humanity's odds of Armageddon, seems to agree.

The doomsday clock they oversee is set at two minutes to midnight.

It's easy to see why.

On August 2nd, the U.S. pulled out of the Intermediate Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.

North Korea continues to test ballistic missiles.

Russia keeps talking about its fancy new nuclear weapons and Democratic presidential

candidates are on stage talking about America's lack of a no first use policy.

Here to help us figure out how doomed we are is John Carl Baker.

Baker is the nuclear field coordinator and senior program Officer at the Plowshares Fund.

His work has appeared in the New Republic and the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.

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