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🗓️ 19 August 2019
⏱️ 31 minutes
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After a year of protests, Standing Rock began to die down in late winter this year. But to one observer, the standoff stood out for how much it resembled a war zone.
Marty Skovlund Jr. is a U.S. Army veteran who served in the 1st Ranger Battalion. He served in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Since coming home he’s run a small business, written books and freelanced for several news outlets. In December, he chronicled the final days of the Dakota Access Pipeline protests, where state and local police milled with private military contractors and some of the remaining protesters set structures on fire.
This week on War College, Skovlund Jr. walks us through the end of one of the largest protracted protests in American history. According to Skovlund, the scene reminded him of forward operating bases in Iraq. In the end, he thinks the police changed the paradigm for how to deal with peaceful protests and, to this day, he can’t believe that no one died.
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0:25.2 | Somebody with my background or anybody who served overseas couldn't help but be reminded of what it's like to go on to a base in the middle of a war zone. And you know the interesting aspect was this isn't a war zone, this is an hour south of Bismarck, |
0:30.0 | North Dakota in the United States. You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front |
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0:46.7 | Here are your hosts. Hello and welcome to war college. I'm your host Matthew Gauld. With us today is |
1:04.9 | Marty Scovland Jr. Scovland is a veteran of the First Ranger Battalion, the |
1:09.2 | author of many fine books, and the producer of two documentaries. He also had a front row seat for the fall of Standing Rock. |
1:15.2 | The reservation of the Dakotas where protesters from across the United States gathered to block the |
1:20.5 | Dakota Access pipeline, an oil pipe that will soon criss-cross Native American land. |
1:25.0 | Marty, thank you so much for joining us. |
1:28.0 | Glad to be on. |
1:29.0 | Thanks for having me, Matt. |
1:30.0 | So, how many times did you visit Standing Rock during and after the protests? |
1:35.0 | So I went up there a total of two times. |
1:38.0 | Once at the height of the protest that first week of December, |
1:41.0 | right when the easement was denied and it was a you know |
1:45.9 | basically a big celebration a lot of the veterans from across the country had |
1:50.5 | come in to support the movement and the camp swelled up to, you know, some |
1:54.4 | estimates were as high as 15, 20,000 people. You know, we left after that week and came |
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