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People think war is sort of two guys fighting and one guy wins and the other guys surrendered, right? You know, what we're seeing is that the homoestasis of conflict is to have conflict, is to have places

like Yemen where you can't even figure out who's who and what's what and who's fighting and who's not fighting right?

You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts. Hello, welcome to War College. I'm your host Matthew Galt.

Libya. Dictator Moamar Gaddafi ruled the country covered and remains in the throes of a violent civil war.

One that most of us in the West, myself included, have not paid much attention to.

Someone who did pay attention is today's guest Robert Young Pelton.

Pelton is an author and documentarian with an extensive experience covering conflicts.

He is just back from Libya. Sir, thank you so much for joining us and attempting to explain all of this to us.

Matt, let's see if we can do that.

Okay, so in our pre-show conversation, you told me that Libya is very complex and also very important. To start us off, can you kind of give us a broad overview of the conflict at the moment? You know, what are the sides? Who are the major players and why is this

such a why is this country of so much regional importance? Well Libya should not be at

war you know it had a revolution in 2011 which overthrew Gaddafi and it was at that time considered

to be part of the Arab Spring and this was now going to lead to some kind of democratic structure.

That structure was deliberately prevented from evolving by outside actors

which would include Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the Emirates, and to a certain degree

Europe and festered.

And so now what we have is what looks like a sort of an east-west conflict, meaning that the

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