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🗓️ 17 May 2023
⏱️ 48 minutes
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In this episode, John interviews good friend, therapist, and mindfulness coach, Dené Logan. She talks about her previous marriage, how she moved through her divorce, and meeting her ex's new partner. Dené specializes in tools for reclaiming the self when we've been conditioned to abandon throughout our lives, moving through anxiety, understanding our addictive patterns, and communicating more effectively in our relationships. She is passionate about facilitating group immersive experiences and retreats. Dené is also the co-host of the podcast, Cheaper than Therapy.
Roughly ten minutes of self help in a shot glass. If you're looking for a wine glass, you've come to the wrong place. Marriage family therapist and best-selling author, John Kim, shares his life and love revelations as well as insights from his sessions. He pulls the curtain back and documents his journey as a therapist but more importantly, as a human being.
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0:00.0 | Hi, my name is John Kim. I'm a therapist who went through his own |
0:04.3 | rebirth many years ago and I've been documenting my journey ever since sharing my life |
0:08.9 | lessons and revelations. I believe in casual or clinical with you instead of at you. I come unrehearsed on purpose |
0:16.2 | because self-help doesn't have to be so complicated. |
0:18.8 | First of all I want to thank you for being one of our host slash contributors |
0:28.6 | slash I don't know a catalyst and Liz. And I know you got married early. I mean, it's funny. I was 28 when I got married |
0:37.0 | early. I mean, it's funny. I was 28 when I got married, which I think to my mother's generation, I remember at the time her feeling like I was in the final stages of the hunt, as she likes to call it. Now it seems so young to me now I feel like I was just a baby you know. |
0:58.0 | Yeah I got married at 29 and do you sometimes look back and if you think about who you were when you got married, just like almost a different person now? |
1:10.0 | Completely different person. |
1:12.0 | Describe to us who you were when you got married at 28. |
1:16.0 | Oh my gosh. I feel like it was another lifetime. I feel like I, in my early 20s, I'd been sort of what I think the people in my family would call a little bit of a loose cannon. I |
1:27.7 | partied a lot. I would you know just do things on whims like I was living in Chicago, working in publicity, so I would like party a lot with the |
1:36.4 | events that we threw and then I think one weekend I was like on a whim like I'm moving to New York and I just sort of like would just do things to like you know disrupt |
1:47.3 | disrupt life and you know when I met my ex-husband, he is very different. He is very much the end of my thing. And so it was sort of like, |
1:58.0 | this was me doing something that was responsible because he was very grounding, he was very, you know, something in my life that felt like |
2:07.2 | stability to certainly me but also my family and I think |
2:18.3 | I was that, you know, I was the youngest I think in a lot of ways like my family sort of you know took care of me a little bit into like early adulthood more than maybe was good for me and so I joke a lot of times that it felt like my mom |
2:27.8 | sort of passed the baton to my ex-husband and was like you take her. I'm sort of done worrying about her or taking care of her so it sort of |
2:35.1 | felt like this is what I'm meant to do now I'm meant to like you know be taken care of by |
2:40.8 | this person now you know what I mean? |
2:43.2 | He was your handrails, huh? |
2:46.8 | Yeah. |
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