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NORTH KOREA: JOB HACKING. MATTHEW HA, FDD

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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NORTH KOREA: JOB HACKING. MATTHEW HA, FDD
1952 PRC ACE

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0:00.0

This is CBS, I on the World. I'm John Batchel. All eyes on Korea for the vote in these next

0:09.9

hours and days for the presidency. However, we shift our gaze to the north, to the very bad actress

0:19.4

of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea,

0:23.4

and their ability online, hackers, is first rate.

0:29.3

Yes, China's good.

0:30.6

Yes, Russia's good.

0:32.1

Yes, Iran's good.

0:33.7

But in this specific story, it demonstrates the ability of North Korea to come up with ways to get at cash, or a cash-hungry regime.

0:44.4

I welcome Matthew Ha, who is a research fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, working with the Center on Cyber Technological Innovation

0:55.0

because the North Koreans have penetrated the American jobs market

1:00.0

in a way that it never occurred to me

1:02.0

before I read the article that Matthew and his colleague

1:05.0

Annie Fixler published in The Washington Times.

1:08.0

Matt, a very good day to you.

1:10.0

This is remote workers who are not real using AI and

1:17.1

modern communication, including VPNs, in order to deceive major corporations into hiring

1:26.0

them and paying them.

1:27.8

I hope I've said all that correctly.

1:30.2

Is this unique to North Korea or do other bad actors use this?

1:35.1

I'd never heard of it.

1:36.1

Good evening to you, Matt.

1:37.4

Thank you very much, Mr. Bachel, for having me on.

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