the relationship that people have to other people's bodies, the way that we can have our own

relationship with someone else's appearance and what that means to us if they change the way

that they look is really interesting when we're talking about things like women and like,

you know, who does your body belong to yeah

intriguing it's not that intriguing i'm intrigued it's just almost it's one of those things that

i can't even by acknowledging it it makes it look like i care in this way but no but this is the thing

this is the thing and i don't care i And I don't care. I don't care.

But it's hard to say that. Do you make me care? Do, is this normal or is this mad and really freaky and sad? No, it's normal. It's normal. I think it's normal. It's normal. Don't tell me if you disagree. Go's Without Saying. You're listening to Goes Without Saying with Seffi and Wing.

I'm Wing.

And I'm Seffi.

What an amazing... you disagree. Goes without saying. You're listening to Goes Without Saying with Seffi and Wing. I'm

Wing. And I'm Seffy. What an amazing time to be alive. We are so back and unpacking the

dirty word of all the demonic jealousy, envy, feeling like you hate your friend because you want

to be her maybe, feeling like you hate yourself, because you don't want to be her maybe feeling like you hate yourself because you

don't want to be her maybe i really feel like we went in a lot of different avenues but did everything

justice here i feel good about this i like this episode i really hope you do too if you're feeling a

little bit um kind of shameful i feel like this will help normalise and validate some of the kind of uglier emotions

that just can't help but pop up sometimes. Enjoy the episode. Thank you so much for being here,

sending lots of love out to you. Hello. Hello. How are you doing? Good. How are you? Good.

Good. No reverse. I was thinking earlier, what we probably didn't make very clear in the last episode, that's all we're pre-recording these, that much I think was said. But I feel like we didn't say how nice it was to have so many messages being like, where are you, can't wait, blah, blah. Oh my God. Yeah, so nice. I've been posting on Instagram and everyone's been really nice. And I really like when people are a bit funny. Go on. I can't remember what it was. Someone said something and I thought, that's funny. Do you remember what it was? No. Okay. But sometimes I just think that's a funny little clip. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, all the time. It was nice to know

that people actually do give a shit that like when we don't record there are people being like,

we miss you, where are you? Like that was incredibly, incredibly nice. And when it's like we're

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