From KCRW, I'm Nevin Klyman, and you're listening to good food.

On Monday of this week, my phone blew up with friends and colleagues asking the same question.

Did you hear that Noma is closing?

What do you think?

Did you already know?

For a certain crowd news that Noma often called the best restaurant in the world,

would end its traditional restaurant service

and morph into something new,

seemed to eclipse an attempted coup in Brazil

and catastrophic floods in Northern California is the biggest news of the day, but such is the power of Renee Rizepi.

The three-star Michelin chef who is credited with starting a food movement is compelling not just for his food

which is beautiful creative and delicious but for his persistent curiosity and his

willingness perhaps his insistence on change.

Just before the holidays, I had the opportunity to interview

Brennay about Noma 2.0 and the resulting book

that documents the years that he and his team spent creating seasonal

menus under the theme's vegetable forest and ocean.

Listening to it now, I can hear him teasing the changes to come.

Hi Renee.

Hello.

You know, I've thought a lot about how so many of our worlds have contracted during the past couple of years

and how easy it is to fall into old patterns. In the introduction to the new book you say it takes discipline to be curious.

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