It is a reminder, is a commitment for us to say this framing of trauma is one that will always

be a failing project and a failing gaze to really represent the magnitude of what is happening

and the source of suffering.

Because everybody wants somebody who's traumatized, but nobody wants you to name who the traumatizer is.

Welcome everybody to a new edition of the Magdasi Street podcast.

We are happy to be joined today by Dr. Lara Sheih, who's a faculty member at the Doha Institute for Graduate Studies in Qatar.

She's published extensively in psychoanalysis and psychotherapy, especially in the context

of colonialism and occupation, in which, as she points out, the traditional categories of

psychotherapy, which is usually seen as restricted to the level of the individual subject,

need to be adapted and stretched out to the much broader social and collective

experiences of occupation and settler colonialism. She's the author of a number of articles on

these issues and most recently a book co-authored with Stephen Chehey called Psychoanalysis

Under Occupation. So Lara, welcome to the show.

It's great to have you here.

And we'd like to begin by asking, as we usually ask, I guess,

just to explain how you got interested in psychotherapy in the context of the trauma of colonialism

and, you know, what brought you, what's the path that you took to get to that field

as opposed to any of the other

fields you could have studied academically speaking?

Sure. Thank you, all three of you, for having me on the show and appreciate all the

labor. I've been following along closely, so the people you have on have been nourishing to my soul,

particularly over these past 15 months. So I suppose the question has the

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